Poptronics Is Gone???

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Poptronics Is Gone???

Post by greg123 » Sun Dec 15, 2002 6:19 am

Hey Guys,<p>Whats this about poptronics being gone? Their site is down saying they are no longer in buisness. WHAT THE #@*(. That sucks. <p>goto www.gernsback.com<p>Does this mean i loose my subscription? And my subscription to their interactive site??<p>Dean, you out there??<p>greg<p>[ December 15, 2002: Message edited by: Greg ]</p>

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Re: Poptronics Is Gone???

Post by Dean Huster » Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:09 pm

Fear not. Poptronics is alive and well. The original gernsback.com site has been living with a nearly twin parallel site at http://www.poptronics.com/ for a couple of years, where all the forums, both old and new, and all the other material are still available. I think they're closing down the original gernsback site which was on a different server since it is a waste of space and time. Actually, I didn't know that note was popping up on the original site until you mentioned it since I access the forums there directly without going through the home page. Those "inner" URLs weren't affected. I'm surprised that they didn't redirect folks to the newer site. I might have to talk to Chris LaMorte about that little oversight.<p>Dean<p>[ December 15, 2002: Message edited by: Dean Huster ]</p>
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Post by greg123 » Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:35 pm

Hang on now, I am a subscriber to both poptronics and poptronics interactive. I got an email this morning saying that the magazine is gone, and that is because gernsback is gone (i.e. out of buisness like their website says). <p>I had an issue with the interactive site because i paid for it and there were never any updates. The email said that is going too.<p>So dean, is gernsback still publishing? And, have they given up the poptronics interactive website.<p>The interactive site is now showing as "Talking Electronics" interactive as they write the site. Is this for real?? <p>Whats on the go?????<p>thanks for the reply by the way

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Re: Poptronics Is Gone???

Post by Dean Huster » Thu Dec 19, 2002 1:34 pm

Forget that "fear not" crap, Greg. I'm now not sure what the heck is going on. http://www.gernsback.com is obviously dead with that ominous warning, "Gernsback Publications, Inc. publisher of Poptronics magazine is no longer in business effective 12/13/2002."<p>My original comment was based upon the fact that as a writer for a monthly column in the magazine, surely if something like this was going on, they'd let me know. After all, I have columns submitted for March already (the lead time is that long). The http://www.poptronics.com site is still going and the old forums are still active. I haven't checked the new ones yet. However, I'm not getting any answers to my e-mails to my editor. This morning, I fired off an e-mail to the owner of Gernsback, Larry Steckler. At least I have an e-mail address for him that doesn't go through the "gernsback.com" system. I'll report back with details when I hear something.<p>If Poptronics and Gernsback indeed are gone, this is a sad day for electronics hobbyists everywhere. The magazine hails from the "golden age" of electronics magazines of the 1950's and 1960's when there were many titles from which to choose. Popular Electronics died a horrible death under Ziff-Davis and the title was resurrected and redirected toward its former glory under Gernsback. I was always uneasy about the folding of Electronics Now and Popular Electronics into the new title, Poptronics. And now my fears may not be unfounded. There will now be more electronics magazines in either the U.K. or Australia from which to choose than there will be here in the U.S.A.<p>If the death is indeed true, I may attempt a shot at my own magazine. Ha! Now to figure out the funding .....<p>Dean
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Post by Ron H » Thu Dec 19, 2002 2:51 pm

Have you guys looked at this?<p>http://www.poptronics.com/interactive/<p>Ron

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Post by Larry Lemieux » Thu Dec 19, 2002 4:08 pm

I spoke to Larry Steckler this morning and he confirmed that Poptronics is indeed gone and that Gernsback Publications no longer exists.<p>We were as shocked as any and sorry to see them go.<p>He did say that the interactive web site will continue, but is being migrated to a different server. I got the impression that there might be some service problems that will be resolved when the move is complete.<p>I'll let you know if any other details are brought to my attention.<p>Larry Lemieux
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Post by greg123 » Thu Dec 19, 2002 6:34 pm

Wow! As dean said, it's a sad day for electronics. It was great every month to have two great mag's that filled all needs; Poptronics and Nuts and Volts. <p>Is it a financial issue? God, poptronics had much more advertising than all the other mag's. Ads stuck in every corner possible.<p>Anyway, that sucks. Dean you sould get your own mag!!<p>Or we, the forum boy's, could start one....

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Post by Dean Huster » Fri Dec 20, 2002 8:04 pm

Like Larry Lemieux, I just got a reply from Larry Steckler, the owner of Gernsback. Yes, Gernsback is gone. I suppose I feel a little like the poor kid who find out after the court decree that his parents just got a divorce.<p>Larry (S.) also mentioned that the mailing lists of Poptonics may be taken over by other magazines, providing replacement issues.<p>I am assuming (I don't really know) that the closure was financial in nature. I was very concerned when Popular Electronics and Electronics Now were merged into Poptronics. I had figure then that it was a declining subscription base and probably a declining advertising base. Yes, there were a lot of ads in the mag, but it may be that there were a lot of major advertising contracts that weren't being renewed.<p>Larry (L.), I hope that Nuts and Volts is running healthy vital signs and not suffering from the same problems. I know that you guys were smart enough to see that the Internet was going to be killing your traditional classified ad base and that you had to spread out into a tradional feature article and monthly column format. It was a timely move.<p>Need a new columnist?<p>Dean
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Re: Poptronics Is Gone???

Post by Dean Huster » Fri Dec 20, 2002 8:11 pm

Just for the record, I've updated my profile:
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Re: Poptronics Is Gone???

Post by Carl Pugh » Sat Dec 21, 2002 8:56 am

It appears that Poptronics death has been greatly exaggerated.
I received the January 2003 issue yesterday.

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Post by greg123 » Sat Dec 21, 2002 12:47 pm

Sorry Carl,<p>I got mine as well. The publisher is dead, i.e. Gernsback. Which usually means the magazine is dead. I guess the jan issue is the last issue.

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Re: Poptronics Is Gone???

Post by Dean Huster » Sun Dec 22, 2002 5:45 pm

Oddly enough, even though I write one of the columns in the mag (similar to T.J. Byers' in N&V), I usually don't get the newest issue until I've had several readers pop some questions through about the current column. Well, that means that I should hopefully get a January check from Gernsback, since they pay upon publication.<p>My question had been whether or not they'd continue to publish through March since most folks had their March columns in by December 5th. It would be nice if that were to happen.<p>Dean
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Re: Poptronics Is Gone???

Post by jollyrgr » Mon Dec 23, 2002 3:08 pm

Does anyone rememeber "Radio Electronics"? That the magazine before it became "Electronics Now"? <p>So what other general electronics magazines are left besides Nuts & Volts? I'm not talking about things like QST or CQ, but TRUE electronic magazines.<p>Maybe Don Lancaster will have time to write for N&V again.<p>[ December 23, 2002: Message edited by: Jolly Roger ]</p>
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Re: Poptronics Is Gone???

Post by haklesup » Mon Dec 23, 2002 5:32 pm

I sure do remember Radio Electronics. I started off with it in 1982 and rode it all the way through Elecronics Now and a couple years into Poptronics when it stopped serving my needs. I had most of my back issues until a few years ago when I let someone clean them out based on the 10-year rule (if you don't touch it in 10 years you probably don't need it)<p>Check out the circulation licence statement in the middle of the Poptronics issue that they have for download (jan 2002 on the site now) for a clue to the drop off in subscriptions. Look at the number of issues printed vs those returned, sold and given complementary for the two years listed (also note the date errors). I don't know if those are good numbers or not but it does show a clear decline. This should be in the jan and July issues of each year if anyone has back issues (and cares to summarize it for us).<p>To answer your other Q.
Most of the trade mags are more in the engineering direction and usually limited to some topic as opposed to the hobbiest mag which is a little broader in scope. I just picked up a copy of "Circuit Cellar" which seems to somewhere in the middle and has some good articles but few thoroughly worked out projects. Although their byline is " a magazine for computer applications" they do cover plenty of analog stuff in this issue. Anyway, It's new to me and these are just my initial observations. Let's see how long they last but with 100 pages and 115 advertizing clients, it looks pretty good for now.

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Re: Poptronics Is Gone???

Post by bodgy » Mon Dec 23, 2002 8:20 pm

Well the UK had a big shake out 5 or 6 years ago and there are now only 5 electronics magazines.<p>EPE Mag - aimed at hobbiests and secondary schools
Elektor - Advanced hobbiests and spare time EE's
Electronics World/Wireless World - For EE's these days - rarely do they have a complete project
Practical Wireless - Not too sure these days - used to be aimed at the hobbiest with radio slant
Practical Television - Aimed at the TV/Vid Engineer.<p>I haven't included the 3 amateur radio mags in that list (Shortwave Radio,RSGB mag and Amateur Radio).<p>The last time I was in the UK they were all hard to get from newsagents, even from WH Smiths - the main wholesale distributor and retailer of newsprint.<p>I recall Hobby Electronics, ETI (now EPE), Radio Constructor, Maplin Magazine and one whose name I forget but only lasted 6 months back in the late 70's early 80's.<p>
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