What kind of dye is this?

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What kind of dye is this?

Post by fine-tune » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:42 pm

I don't know where to post this question. If you don't have the answer, maybe
you can direct me to a more appropriate forum.

Many years ago someone added dye to auto polish. The results were amazing.
All those ultra fine scratches that make your almost new car look old disappeared.
Several manufacturers had their own formulations. I suppose it wasn't profitable
enough, so most auto stores discontinued colored auto polishes.

Dupont made the best auto polish with dye, but they discontinued the product.
I use "The Color Treatment" which is not fun to apply, but it works.

https://i.postimg.cc/GhJg0tfj/The-Color-Treatment.jpg

I tried posting about this at an auto forum. Predictably, there were several unpleasant
replies. Guys said things like, "just another junk product for gullible consumers." They
didn't seem to notice I was asking about the dye in the polish.

I'm familiar with aniline dyes. Instead of stain or paint, they're commonly used to
change the color of wood.

If you happen to know, what kind of dye is used in colored auto polish? I googled many
times. Can't find an answer.

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Re: What kind of dye is this?

Post by Joseph » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:53 am

An idea I have is that It's paint pigments that match what car manufacturers use.

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Re: What kind of dye is this?

Post by Janitor Tzap » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:43 am

I've used scratch filler products that were a kind of wax and enamel based.
Basically a color type crayon that closely matched your cars paint color.

Only problem is that with these newer paints, and UV protective coatings on cars now.
Getting colors to match, and having the the repair last for any length time is a problem.

There was a product being hawked on TV awhile ago, that supposedly used a process of softening the paint around the scratch.
Causing the softened paint to flow in to the scratch.
Don't remember if it said anything about also causing the UV coating to re-seal as well.


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Re: What kind of dye is this?

Post by Externet » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:16 pm

What do you mean by "polish"... ? A wax, a polishing compound, a buffing compound ?

Perhaps peek at the MSDS of the product you are curious about; may have clues on pigments.

Here is one----> https://www.thetreatment.com/product/th ... 5800781250

Or, ----> https://www.realmilkpaint.com/help/tuto ... red-waxes/
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Re: What kind of dye is this?

Post by haklesup » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:05 pm

probably the same dye used in crayons and candles of it is a real Wax. What the dye is, depends on the color. If you are using a polymer wax, its probably a little different


https://www.crayola.com/faq/science/can ... r-project/

https://makezine.com/2010/08/27/color-c ... y-crayons/

https://chicagoacs.org/articles/112

There are other references to Chemistry of pigments in auto wax but in general, wax is put on in such a thin layer, and wiped right off, it is unlikely that much pigment can be left behind even inside scratches and pits. you are better off using a restore product with polymerized coating or rubbing compound to reduce scratch or pitting appearance before the application of wax. Most paint defects are in the clear coat so you really need to fill with something clear. Some clear coats are also Dyed but mostly for custom stuff or maybe metallic flake paint jobs

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Re: What kind of dye is this?

Post by fine-tune » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:32 pm

Four years ago I purchased an expensive SUV. The finish on this vehicle is stunning.
I return to the dealer every few months for basic service (oil change, etc.).

I always apply "The Color Treatment" 24 hours before my trip to the dealer. When I
drive into the service garage, several mechanics put down their tools. They all want
to know how I keep the finish on my SUV looking new! I never tell them I'm using
an auto polish with dye.

The label on The Color Treatment bottle says, "rock hard Carnauba sealant, fortified
with PTFE polymers." Successfully blending all those chemicals must be a complex
process. The manufacturer will never list the ingredients.

There are several dozen products that claim to repair or hide scratches. I've tried many.
The look of amazement from those hard-nosed auto mechanics at the dealership is the
the reason why I continue to use auto polish with dye.

The Dupont product was much easier to use. The Color Treatment is a pain in the neck.
I wish I had purchased two or three dozen bottles of the Dupont polish before it was
discontinued.

It would be nice if I could ask my father. After WWII he worked as a chemist for Schlumberger.
At the age of 45 he quit Schlumberger because they poisoned the water in our town. He started
a business with three other guys who also quit Schlumberger, but that's another story.

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