Auto starter motor

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Auto starter motor

Post by Erik Seyler » Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:14 am

I'm still thinking about a simple EV.What about car starter motors ? How can you vary the speed? I think because they have brushes they would burn out any mosfetpower transistor control or am I wrong ?

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Re: Auto starter motor

Post by russlk » Sun Jan 19, 2003 12:52 pm

The starter motor is series wound, it looks like a short circuit at startup, so yes it would destroy the switch transister unless you have a way to limit the maximum current. The series motor has no top speed limit (in theory), so you would control it by turning it on & off. If you use a series inductor to give a controlable current ramp, the series motor could work.

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Re: Auto starter motor

Post by Chris Smith » Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:36 pm

Keep in mind that the motor wants to draw upwards of 600 amps depending on size, but pulse width will work with the motor and you will need at least 400 amps worth of Fets. <p>Once spinning with lesser load the motor will peak out at around one hundred plus amps, with a reasonable load. <p>Running the starter at high amps will smoke it if run too long, but they are durable.<p> The starter is not designed as full duty cycle motor so it will wear out prematurely. <p>Also polish the commutator as smooth as possible to keep brush wear to a minimum and have good condition bearings on each end. <p>Bushing type starters should be avoided or modified to use bearings. <p>You also dont need the internal type solenoid starters as this only gets in the way.

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Re: Auto starter motor

Post by Dimbulb » Mon Jan 20, 2003 10:03 am

In theory a pwm dc speed controller could drive
10 IRFZ48N power hexfets each rated at 64A each

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Re: Auto starter motor

Post by Chris Smith » Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:59 pm

The "fan out" for Fets is almost infinate because they dont draw current at the gate, they merely require a voltage present at the gate.

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Post by Crowbar » Wed Jan 22, 2003 12:29 pm

A better bet would be to use a compound wound or a stab shunt field motor. That would give you good speed control and torque with only tach feedback.
Keep Prying...

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Re: Auto starter motor

Post by Gary » Wed Jan 22, 2003 7:58 pm

Starter motors are ment for short-term use at their rated voltage. A method around this I've seen is a 12v starter motor coupled with a 6v deep-discharge battery.

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