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Re: restore

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Bigglez wrote:Also, I don't have an EAGLE icon in the Start menu, but I
did create one that jumps to:
"C:\Program Files\EAGLE-5.1.0\bin\eagle.exe"
and works well.

Unlike typical Windows installs that generate shortcuts and
folders in the Start Menu (and the better ones even ask before
doing so) EAGLE doesn't. Not a big issue, and perhaps it
is because the program is Linux/Windows compatible and
not entirely Windows centric.
You're right. My Eagle download installed an Eagle folder in my Start/Programs. I only use WinXP.
At least you can get it going with your shortcut.

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evahle wrote: My Eagle download installed an Eagle folder in my Start/Programs. I only use WinXP.
Ditto. WinXP Pro and EAGLE created a folder under Start.

Here's the maddening kicker, if I launch EAGLE from my
short cut, or from the Start menu tree I get version 5.1.0
- all well and good.

BUT, if I use the Windows Explorer (not windows ie) to
open a file type *.SCH (EAGLE schematic) it launches
EAGLE 4.16r2 (which was uninstalled a year ago...).

There's only so many definitions of three letter file extensions
and SCH is Microsoft Schedule and EAGLE Schematic and
possibly others I don't know about.

Clearly this PC associates SCH with an older version of
EAGLE. I have to launch EAGLE first then find the file,
or suffer the extra work of closing the old EAGLE and
launching the latest with my homemade short cut.

It a very minor irritation, and I should probably google
for help in changing the file extension associations.
But, I'm lazy...
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Re: restore

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Bigglez wrote:
evahle wrote: My Eagle download installed an Eagle folder in my Start/Programs. I only use WinXP.
Ditto. WinXP Pro and EAGLE created a folder under Start.

Here's the maddening kicker, if I launch EAGLE from my
short cut, or from the Start menu tree I get version 5.1.0
- all well and good.

BUT, if I use the Windows Explorer (not windows ie) to
open a file type *.SCH (EAGLE schematic) it launches
EAGLE 4.16r2 (which was uninstalled a year ago...).

There's only so many definitions of three letter file extensions
and SCH is Microsoft Schedule and EAGLE Schematic and
possibly others I don't know about.

Clearly this PC associates SCH with an older version of
EAGLE. I have to launch EAGLE first then find the file,
or suffer the extra work of closing the old EAGLE and
launching the latest with my homemade short cut.

It a very minor irritation, and I should probably google
for help in changing the file extension associations.
But, I'm lazy...
Bigglez you should be able to fix that issue with little effort. Right click a .sch file and then select open with. When the open with dialogue opens use browse to locate the shortcut you created or the .exe the shortcut itself links to. That should resolve the issue. If it doesn't try going to control panel and opening folder options (also available from a file explorer window menu). Once it opens there is a tab that allows you to associate file types with a specific command or executable.
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SETEC_Astronomy wrote: Bigglez you should be able to fix that issue with little effort. Right click a .sch file and then select open with.
Agreed. I've tried this using your method and I get
the same error, even though I'm associating *.SCH
to "C:\Program Files\EAGLE-5.1.0\bin\eagle.exe":

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Somehow this PC is hanging onto the old EAGLE.exe
path, even when I point to the new one explicitly.

When I upgraded to 5.1.0 it installed itself in a new
sub-dir (folder) that I named "EAGLE-5.1.0"
I still have the old one (just in case...):
"C:\Program Files\eagle-win-eng-4.16r2\bin\eagle.exe"

I'm too chicken to nix the old sub-dir.
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Post by CeaSaR »

Bigglez,

Try opening Windows Explorer, clicking on "Tools->Folder Options", then
click the File Types tab. Scroll down until you find SCH and change the
association. Browse for the new install of Eagle. If that doesn't work,
delete the association and follow the previous instructions to associate the
extension to the new version of Eagle.

One thing that might help if you still have problems is to restart the
computer between deleting the association and creating the new one.

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CeaSaR wrote:Try opening Windows Explorer, clicking on "Tools->Folder Options", then
click the File Types tab.
Where?
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Post by SETEC_Astronomy »

Are you perhaps running as an unprivileged user?
The tab can be found here
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SETEC_Astronomy wrote:Are you perhaps running as an unprivileged user?
My privilages in life have been satisfactory, what did I miss?
I'm the admin user (in name only, as you can tell).
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SETEC_Astronomy wrote:Are you perhaps running as an unprivileged user?
The tab can be found here
Okay, switched user to myself from myself and now
have extra tabs in Folder Options. I checked the association
of *.SCH and to be sure I deleted it and made a
new one, using EAGLE 5.1.0 as the destination.

Of course, it doesn't work, (same outcome as before)
but thanks anyway for teaching me a new trick in the OS.
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Ah, XP pro. I have been told that there are a few differences between the
Pro and Home editions. This must be one. I only have experience with the
Home edition, but that will change soon enough (YAY! No more old Win98
machines at work!!!). Maybe someone else with "Pro" experience can help.

I tried.

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You sure are quick. I had just read your post and was typing mine!

Sorry it didn't work.

You are quite welcome. At least the knowledge was useful in some way.

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Post by Robert Reed »

Just a status report on my computer woes:
Talked to my computer guy about repairs and quote was $150 for file/program saving, wipe C drive clean and then reload everything with a thorough initial virus scan before. Checked around and his price is best in town. Bad part is it will be 7 days before he can get to it. So with the computer already set for a thorugh and complete 'cleanup' job, I thought what have I got to lose by playing around a little bit.
Here is where it stands now-
Doing some research from reliable sources, I discovered that mIRC is a legitimate site (albeit a ridiculous one) used by a lot of people but more by the younger crowd. Its vulnerable to virus much in the same way as LimeWire is.
Taking ReloadRon's advice, I booted up in safe mode w/netwoking and low & behold I actually able to uninstall mIRC and all its assc. folders. I then uninstalled AVG free and went to Cybernets site and reinstall a new one from there(again AVG Free).
At that point I ran a complete scan and every thing came up clean. I then used bigglez's suggestion for RegCure. Ran their scan and it detected 1600 errors. They want $40 to correct this. In trying to decipher some of these, a lot looked like old file paths to programs I had deleted plus leftover temporary downloads. Others I could not decipher may have been of importance. Not sure if I want to spend the money for something that may not offer any improvement (from a user standpoint).
Here is what I am left with-
I am still blocked for security updates from Windows and AVG. Any other door I try to go thru to get these updates is blocked by "Access Denied" popup. Cannot defrag computer using the windows program. Cannot scan for and fix errors using the windows internal program. Note the last two I may have caused myself by fiddling around with this thing of late.
Other than that the computer seems to be working fine on all functions I been using the last few days (have not checked ALL programs and files).
One thing that has occurred to me is that when I bought this computer, Dell had it loaded to the max. with "Teeny-Bopper" programs. with a lot of effort I deleted all that were evidently ridiculous, however that mIRC program may have been preinstalled along with that other crap. If I didn't positively know a program was junk at the time, it was not deleted for fear that I might screw something up. So what I am getting at is the fact that I may have had that program all along and then something or one from the internet was able to open it,since afterall it is some kind of a chat zone. I have contacted all E-mailers from family and whatnot as to wheather they had this program in their computers - Nada.
So in light of these facts, does anyone suspect that in fact I may have no virus at all, but just system operating errors that could be cured by an easier and cheaper method than I initially mentioned?
PS I uninstall and down load new AVG every two days in hopes that the new one has all the updates I have been missing - make sense?
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Post by SETEC_Astronomy »

I'm 100% positive you're infected with a virus or trojan of some kind. mIRC is a legitimate program but that doesn't mean it can't be used in a malicious manner. Bot herders use IRC to control their zombie machines once they've been infected. I'd be willing to bet mIRC shows back up in the next few days or other signs of software re-spawning itself. If you want I'm willing to guide you step-by-step through fixing this whole issue for free, $150 is a bit steep in my book. It's your call but I wouldn't pay someone $150 to fix it, I wouldn't pay $40 to a company that finds stuff to "fix" and I wouldn't trust that your computer is safe to use in any way that involves personal data. Registry cleaners are not something to toy with, the companies that offer them often have ill intent. You don't have to take my word for it either http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/regcure.com (Read the customer comments at the bottom of the page and keep going to the next, they only get worse). Let me know what you decide and what resources you have available to you. If you can gain temporary access to a second computer we can get things fixed up fairly quickly. If we have to make do with what you got I'm sure it can all still be done it will just take longer.
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Post by reloadron »

I tend to agree with SETEC_Astronomy in that most of the pay registry cleaners are snake oil. Actually since you have some time to kill it wouldn't hurt to try a few things. There are some great free utilities out there.

First things first would be to see how much data is on this machine that you really want to recover?

Then if you want we can look at ways to save your critical data. What make and model machine and what operating system are you running? Also do you have your operating system disk?

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SETEC_Astronomy wrote: Registry cleaners are not something to toy with, the companies that offer them often have ill intent.
Agreed.
SETEC_Astronomy wrote:You don't have to take my word for it either http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/regcure.com (Read the customer comments at the bottom of the page.
What I take away from that link is that regcure has
become a method for third party malware to enter
an OS. I don't see any evidence that ParentoLogic is
to blame. Of greater concern is that it took three
or more emails to them for customer support this
month only to find out that my subscription had
expired months ago. I'm not motivated to renew
based on that fact rather than your claim they are
malware.
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